Comments for Tyler Seamons http://www.tylerseamons.com Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:05:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on What I Hate About Nitrobids.com and other dutch auctions… by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/08/23/what-i-hate-about-nitrobids-com-and-other-dutch-auctions/comment-page-1/#comment-371 secchione9 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:05:01 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=251#comment-371 And I'm not mad at their desire or plan to make money, but the lack of explanation of how it actually works. And the gaming nature of the deal. I think it should be regulated like any other online gambling website. And I’m not mad at their desire or plan to make money, but the lack of explanation of how it actually works. And the gaming nature of the deal. I think it should be regulated like any other online gambling website.

]]> Comment on What I Hate About Nitrobids.com and other dutch auctions… by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/08/23/what-i-hate-about-nitrobids-com-and-other-dutch-auctions/comment-page-1/#comment-370 secchione9 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:02:17 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=251#comment-370 You must have owned or own one of these dutch auction sites. My complaint isn't that these are legitimate companies attempting to make money on a fun thing, but that the marketing information they employ is very misleading. If they were explicit about what they really were, on their front page, then happy day. And, in my opinion, there is no transparency about who you are bidding against. They could be corporate stooges set up to keep bids coming. They could be part of the software. You are right, companies need to make money, and one way that I have seen these dutch auctions hedge against their losses is to bid on their own items until they break even. Terrible. Until these kinds of sites are explicit about what they are, I'll be writing against them. When you go to Vegas, you know what you are getting in to. Dutch auctions aren't the same. They masquerade as auctions, and they aren't. BTW, I've been self employed for the last ten years. If you don't have the stones to own a business, you shouldn't, but you are going to see a share of criticism in any business you are in. You must have owned or own one of these dutch auction sites. My complaint isn’t that these are legitimate companies attempting to make money on a fun thing, but that the marketing information they employ is very misleading. If they were explicit about what they really were, on their front page, then happy day. And, in my opinion, there is no transparency about who you are bidding against. They could be corporate stooges set up to keep bids coming. They could be part of the software. You are right, companies need to make money, and one way that I have seen these dutch auctions hedge against their losses is to bid on their own items until they break even. Terrible. Until these kinds of sites are explicit about what they are, I’ll be writing against them.

When you go to Vegas, you know what you are getting in to. Dutch auctions aren’t the same. They masquerade as auctions, and they aren’t.

BTW, I’ve been self employed for the last ten years. If you don’t have the stones to own a business, you shouldn’t, but you are going to see a share of criticism in any business you are in.

]]> Comment on My Experience as a Tradia Franchisee by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/01/18/my-experience-as-a-tradia-franchisee/comment-page-1/#comment-369 secchione9 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:00 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=237#comment-369 Agreed, except that there are some good exchanges. IMS and BizX have a good reputation and make great attempts to be ethical and have a valuable currency. I'm actually a big fan of the barter industry, and would recommend it to anyone. Except that your experience will always depend on your broker. If you have a good broker, you'll generally have a good experience. If not, you simply won't. Agreed, except that there are some good exchanges. IMS and BizX have a good reputation and make great attempts to be ethical and have a valuable currency. I’m actually a big fan of the barter industry, and would recommend it to anyone. Except that your experience will always depend on your broker. If you have a good broker, you’ll generally have a good experience. If not, you simply won’t.

]]> Comment on My Experience as a Tradia Franchisee by Joshua http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/01/18/my-experience-as-a-tradia-franchisee/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Joshua Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:54:13 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=237#comment-368 Why anybody would want to be a part of or do business with any of these trade exchanges befuddles me. I have worked in the industry and been a client and can attest to the borderline criminal activity that goes along with trade exchanges. Whether it is Tradia, ITEX, Florida Barter, BizXchange, IMS, or any of the others, the goal is to make money by exploiting members period. They use up the resources of one member to make other members happy and then have to do it over and over to sustain themselves. If you really want an edge in sales and marketing, do what you say you are going to do, provide good service to your customers, and pay your bills. Simple as that. Why anybody would want to be a part of or do business with any of these trade exchanges befuddles me. I have worked in the industry and been a client and can attest to the borderline criminal activity that goes along with trade exchanges. Whether it is Tradia, ITEX, Florida Barter, BizXchange, IMS, or any of the others, the goal is to make money by exploiting members period. They use up the resources of one member to make other members happy and then have to do it over and over to sustain themselves. If you really want an edge in sales and marketing, do what you say you are going to do, provide good service to your customers, and pay your bills. Simple as that.

]]> Comment on What I Hate About Nitrobids.com and other dutch auctions… by Troy http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/08/23/what-i-hate-about-nitrobids-com-and-other-dutch-auctions/comment-page-1/#comment-357 Troy Wed, 24 Aug 2011 04:09:44 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=251#comment-357 Yeah, I'd have to disagree myself. Many of these "auction" sites are now out of business due to the fact that they do lose a ton of money on many of the auctions. It kind of makes me laugh that you write a whole paper on why you think there's no transparency, but go on to essentially explain exactly how it works. I too am familiar with this site and they do indeed have a tutorial that explains how it works. It's almost as if you're just ticked that you didn't think of this first. There is a ton of potential for the company to make money, but there is absolutely a high risk of loss as well. It's obvious from the amount of companies that have failed with this business model, that the risk of loss is great. Sure, as you break it down, 140 people (or bids) could bid on a $29 item and the company makes bank. The winner could've bid once and won the item (I've done this on another site)...that's great! The winner is happy and the company is happy. The flip side is (as pointed out on previous post), there are 140 bids on a $1000 laptop computer, so the winner gets it for $1.40. Do you think the company scores on that deal? That's why you "buy" your bids, to help the company "pad" these losses. That's clear as day to anyone that actually reads the tutorial and actually has some common sense. So you're mad that a company has a business plan where they could potentially make a lot of money? Take my advice, never start a business...someone might get mad at you for trying to make money. Yeah, I’d have to disagree myself. Many of these “auction” sites are now out of business due to the fact that they do lose a ton of money on many of the auctions. It kind of makes me laugh that you write a whole paper on why you think there’s no transparency, but go on to essentially explain exactly how it works. I too am familiar with this site and they do indeed have a tutorial that explains how it works. It’s almost as if you’re just ticked that you didn’t think of this first. There is a ton of potential for the company to make money, but there is absolutely a high risk of loss as well. It’s obvious from the amount of companies that have failed with this business model, that the risk of loss is great. Sure, as you break it down, 140 people (or bids) could bid on a $29 item and the company makes bank. The winner could’ve bid once and won the item (I’ve done this on another site)…that’s great! The winner is happy and the company is happy. The flip side is (as pointed out on previous post), there are 140 bids on a $1000 laptop computer, so the winner gets it for $1.40. Do you think the company scores on that deal? That’s why you “buy” your bids, to help the company “pad” these losses. That’s clear as day to anyone that actually reads the tutorial and actually has some common sense. So you’re mad that a company has a business plan where they could potentially make a lot of money? Take my advice, never start a business…someone might get mad at you for trying to make money.

]]> Comment on Bid2Buy, Swoopo, Dubli, and NitroBids Scam Their Customers by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/09/14/bid2buy-swoopo-dubli-and-nitrobids-scam-their-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-343 secchione9 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:46:11 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=256#comment-343 Seriously???? How many times am I going to point out that this post is ANTI-DUBLI??? Wow. These guys really aren't paying any attention to what they are commenting on. Dear Jonathon, you are working for a company that scams people. Love, Tyler. Seriously???? How many times am I going to point out that this post is ANTI-DUBLI??? Wow. These guys really aren’t paying any attention to what they are commenting on. Dear Jonathon, you are working for a company that scams people. Love, Tyler.

]]> Comment on Bid2Buy, Swoopo, Dubli, and NitroBids Scam Their Customers by Jonathon Courser http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/09/14/bid2buy-swoopo-dubli-and-nitrobids-scam-their-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-342 Jonathon Courser Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:17:34 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=256#comment-342 Who needs a Automatic Martini Shaker in their life? Grab yours know on DubLi.com! Who needs a Automatic Martini Shaker in their life? Grab yours know on DubLi.com!

]]> Comment on My Experience as a Tradia Franchisee by Ted http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/01/18/my-experience-as-a-tradia-franchisee/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Ted Tue, 24 May 2011 21:35:55 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=237#comment-308 Tradia was just bought out by a good company Itex, so lets hope they straighten things up Tradia was just bought out by a good company
Itex, so lets hope they straighten things up

]]> Comment on Bid2Buy, Swoopo, Dubli, and NitroBids Scam Their Customers by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/09/14/bid2buy-swoopo-dubli-and-nitrobids-scam-their-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-241 secchione9 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:01:40 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=256#comment-241 Totally. It's deceptive it sounds good and if they get the right product mix they're sure to do well. Sounds like a casino. Totally. It’s deceptive it sounds good and if they get the right product mix they’re sure to do well. Sounds like a casino.

]]> Comment on What I Hate About Nitrobids.com and other dutch auctions… by secchione9 http://www.tylerseamons.com/2010/08/23/what-i-hate-about-nitrobids-com-and-other-dutch-auctions/comment-page-1/#comment-240 secchione9 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:00:28 +0000 http://www.tylerseamons.com/?p=251#comment-240 Yep just like you would know the risks of using a slot machine. But slot machines are regulated. These auctions aren't. Thus the complaint about transparency. Yep just like you would know the risks of using a slot machine. But slot machines are regulated. These auctions aren’t. Thus the complaint about transparency.

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